Showing posts with label Mikhail Saakashvili. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mikhail Saakashvili. Show all posts

Friday, August 22, 2008

Cluster Munition Accusations Continue

Russia continues to deny the use of cluster bomb munition in it's operations in Georgia despite continuing and growing evidence to the contrary.



Human Rights Watch is dogging Russia on this but it isn't getting a whole lot of press coverage outside of the occasional NPR mention. That seems rather odd given our media's general record on human rights. Heck, it would seem to be a great opportunity to grill McCain and Obama about their thoughts on the use of such horrible weapons!


I think Russia would do well to fess up and help with the cleanup. It might even help to foster some international goodwill. Of course, Russia is not usually amenable towards ideas that I come up with.




Russia also continues to drag it's feet on withdrawal from Georgian territory but has reportedly finally started to do so, at least from some positions.

As with most conflicts, just about every party here seems to deserve some blame. Georgia for being idiotic enough to use force in South Ossetia. Russia for it over the top reaction and for their own human rights abuses during their 'response.' Even the leaders in both South Ossetia and Abkhazia deserve some blame as they have not helped to defuse anything and seem more intent on fermenting further bad feelings.

The United States seems to deserve some blame here as well. There is some reason that Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili seemed to think he would be backed up with his action against South Ossetia. There is some reason why he thought we would come to his aid, militarily, when Russia moved against Georgia. That reason is not simply that Saakashvili suffers from delusions (which is not beyond the realm of possibility.) He was given some type of assurance from someone. Whether it was someone within the government or someone he had reason to believe knew the intentions of the government is the question.

There is a story here that hasn't been told yet. Perhaps the story has started to be told at TPM and the Washington Post? John McCain better hope that this is not the start of the story that will be told. That would work out badly for him.

Look for it though. The rest of the story is coming. It's out there somewhere and it won't be pretty. It is disgraceful that so many had to die and be injured because of it.

Comments welcome,

Pat McGovern

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Monday, August 18, 2008

VP Candidates Front and Center

With the Democratic (please note the spelling and pronunciation all you Republic(an)s) National convention rapidly approaching, the Vice Presidency is entering it's brief, and only, shining moment. Never shall these men and women shine so brightly. At least, until their candidates presidency is over and they themselves get nominated.

That said, on Meet the Press, their, unfortunately abbreviated analysis:



And on the Today show, their report:



The skinny?


Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE) is the current front runner. Most national security experience. Heck, he just visited Tbilisi at the invitation of the Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili to discuss the Russia-Georgia conflict. Great attack dog persona for destroying whomever the Republic(an)s pick in debate. Downside: he is a little long in the tooth. He is in the old white guy to balance the ticket mold that the Obama people may want to avoid. At least he isn't from the south.


Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) is a close second. Safer pick. Less likely to do damage or embarrass with his (lack of) bravado. Has decent foreign chops. Was a governor for eight years. Been in the senate for 10. Downside: He is a little plain vanilla. He isn't the debater Biden is and might have some issues holding his own against certain Republic(an) counterparts. He also suffers some from the 'safe white male' pick that the campaign may be intentionally avoiding.


Governor Tim Kaine (D-VA) would be a great pick, except for his lack of experience. He has the vision, the idealism and the passion but not the credentials. With a candidate that also has a credentialing issue, that is not a particularly good thing. That said, he and Obama have good chemistry and picking him would signal that Obama is confident in his message and would rather have someone who he considers comfortable with rather than someone who would help him shore up his own shorcomings. Whether that is a good thing is debatable.


Former Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA). His name keeps popping up. I have no clue why. Serious foreign policy and a defense chops. Not very charismatic. Why you would want to pick a cranky old southern white guy completely baffles me. Credentials smentials (or something like that). This would be an awful pick. Even worse, I have the feeling that if they did want him, he would rebuff them.


Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY). Yes, I know everyone has her written off. But seriously, she has no weak spots that haven't already been messed with. You know what you are getting. There is some serious potential bonus for the woman candidate. And, after essentially giving her a non-consider for the last two months, you may bring Hillary supporters who have drifted into the nether back into the fold and give the campaign an extra infusion of life. That said, I consider this a long shot, but I don't think the odds are as long as some pundits would have you believe.


Senator Chistopher J. Dodd (D-CT). Chris was the original 'Biden' candidate. Serious foreign policy chops, as well as some super relevant domestic chops (Banking Committee) after 28 years in the Senate. Not quite as ferocious a debater as Biden. Also, apparently, not as interested in campaigning for the position as Biden. Both of which have relegated him to the end of the line. He could still be a dark horse though.


Finally, although I doubt it will happen, I shall mention Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM). A seriously major contender early on, his vice-presidential prospects seem to have mimicked his presidential prospects. He also has some serious chops on issues that Obama is perceived to be weak on. He is not exactly an attack dog though. For reasons that I may never fully understand, I fear this man, whom I respect greatly, may fade into obscurity.

I'd like to see Evan Bayh. Why? Because, intellectually, he is more akin than the vast majority of potentials to my own views. I supported him for president until his very early dropout. I would love to see him as president. I would love to see him as Vice-President.

Likely choice: Sen. Joe Biden. Again, as I said, he is a little long in the tooth but he is the Dems answer (and revenge) for Dick Cheney. I will not be unhappy with this pick. I have been a great fan of his since I started politics. (I thought is was super cool that he was elected at age 29 since he would be 30 before he took office in the senate.) I think he has the right combination for Obama now.

Truth be told I would not be unhappy with any of the above candidates. There are, of course, many not mentioned whom I would be equally happy with but who have no chance.

I don't know that this decision makes that much of a difference in this election. To the extent that it may, Biden will help you the most, particularly since he will be a near slam dunk in the Vice-Presidential debate regardless of his opponent.

We will find out in the next week or so who it is. We will find out in the next 10 weeks or so if it matters.

Comments welcome,

Pat McGovern

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Friday, August 15, 2008

Saakashvili Does Sign

I am baffled by the fact that regardless of when I decide to resume making post on current events, the events of the day inevitably draw me to post multiple times, and incessantly, on one given topic.

This occured last year with the Walter Reed scandal and the original Wandering Donkey. Sad to say, I have lost those posts. You may be able to ressurect them on archive.org but I don't have time to.

Now onward to the fact that I am posting at least once a day on the Georgia-Russia crisis. (You may indeed read into the order of the nations in my title.)

In my previous post I asked why Mikhail Saakashvili might be expected to sign a peace agreement with the terms outlined. I responded with, what I thought, to be a well reasoned argument that he should not.

However, Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili has done exactly that.



The fact that the Georgians have signed a Cease Fire agreement is somewhat significant.

First, I give a number of reasons why this should NOT have been done on my previous post.

Second, and a point I did not consider earlier, is that Russia has not yet agreed to these conditions! WTF was French President Nicolas Sarkozy doing in Moscow? Apparently he was putting together a peace deal that was up to Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice to shove down the throats of the combatants. I personally thought the Russian side was covered. I guess this was wrong. (I hope you enjoyed your visit to the Kremlin, Nick. I'd love to get such a deal!)

Apparently, the Russians now have to sign this. This is not a big thing if it gives what was told before. This would include the ability of Russian troops to move into proper Georgian territory if it's citizens, troops or integrity were threatened.

Hell, I'd be all over signing that. I don't necessarily think that is the same thing they thought they would be signing two days ago though.

I have a feeling that some sort of switch has taken place.

Time, and the various news agencies will tell.

In the meantime, given the past knowns and rhetoric, Mikhail Saakashvili made a mistake today.

Given that he went to Columbia; I think there is a different interpretation that will come to light.

Russia, cannot win this, despite their overconfident attitude. They lose. The west and Georgia win. Does Medvedev lose credibility? Absolutely! Does it mean change? Probably not.

Comments welcome,

Pat McGovern

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Thursday, August 14, 2008

Russians Sticking Around

Increasingly, it is starting to look like the Bush administration is on the right side, even instinctively, for once. They are still standing with Georgia against Russia in South Ossetia. They are still not blindly accepting the claims of Russia about atrocities by Georgia against the Ossetians.

Meanwhile, Russia is not helping it's cause. They have not withdrawn, which they may or may not have interpreted as one of the terms of the ceasefire. They have also advanced which cannot possibly be interpreted as being allowed under the terms of the ceasefire.



I would really like to know, now that the Russian Army has all but destroyed the Georgian Army exactly how much of a threat does it present to them or the Ossetians?

In addition organizations such as Human Rights Watch are both casting some doubt on Russian claims of Georgia atrocities, such as the alleged 2000 Ossetians massacred:

A doctor at Tskhinvali Regional Hospital who was on duty from the afternoon of August 7 told Human Rights Watch that between August 6 to12 the hospital treated 273 wounded, both military and civilians. She said her hospital was the only clinic treating the wounded in Tskhinvali. The doctor said there were more military personnel than civilians among the wounded and added that all of the wounded were later transferred to the Russian Ministry of Emergencies mobile hospitals in South and North Ossetia. As of August 13, there were no wounded left in the Tskhinvali hospital.

The doctor also said that 44 bodies had been brought to the hospital since the fighting began, of both military and civilians. The figure reflects only those killed in the city of Tskhinvali. But the doctor was adamant that the majority of people killed in the city had been brought to the hospital before being buried, because the city morgue was not functioning due to the lack of electricity in the city.


and shedding light on ongoing abuses clearly caused by, if not directly effected by, the Russian invasion:

On August 13, Russian forces seemed to be taking measures to prevent the looting of Georgian villages; the road south from the town of Java to Tskhinvali was closed to members of South Ossetian paramilitary groups. Russian officers at the checkpoint told Human Rights Watch that the road closure was due to the massive looting taking place in Georgian villages along the road.

However, moving back from Tskhinvali to Java on the evening of August 13, Human Rights Watch researchers saw, for the second day running, houses that were ablaze in several Georgian villages. They had clearly just been torched. One counterintelligence officer of the South Ossetian forces claimed to Human Rights Watch that: “We burned these houses. We want to make sure that they [the Georgians] can’t come back, because if they do come back, this will be a Georgian enclave again and this should not happen.”

The officer went on to describe events during the fighting, including the execution of a Georgian armed man: “The day before yesterday [August 11, 2008], the Georgians killed two of my soldiers in the village of Tamarasheni. We had been conducting a sweep operation there. We detained three of them. Two of them didn’t do anything to us so we just let them go – we couldn't take them anywhere as I had to take care of my own men first. The third one seemed to be high on something – a normal person would have surrendered, and this one was shooting at us instead. We questioned him and then executed him.”

He expressed concern about the ongoing pillaging: “There are looters everywhere in these villages. ... The looters are now moving to Gori (I went there this morning). The fighting there is over, and now the looters are looting there to profit from this war. Someone has to do something about it.”


Russia continues to come out in this badly. Maybe their orignal intention was to act in a peacekeeping role. Regardless, they are now being seen, and will continue to be seen as aggressors. They need to step back.

The rest of eastern Europe as well as most of the rest of the world will not idly sit by while Russia seems to impose it's will on it's neighbors. We did that in the 50's and 60's. We weren't happy with the consequences of sitting on our hands then. We shall not do so this time.




That being said, Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili's 'interesting' assumptions need to come to an end. He is doing a great deal of damage with his rhetoric. Hopefully, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice essentially tells him to 'shut up' and let everyone else speak. Or at least encourages him to get his facts straight before he actually says anything.

I know the man likes President George W. Bush, but come on, you don't have to be as cowboyish in your rhetoric as he has been. Even George W. Bush has learned moderation, especially when speaking on international issues.

We, the United States, as I said in a previous post, don't have either the moral authority we once did, nor do we have the physical authority to affect this situation. Thanks to our actions in Iraq we have been deprived of both. This may be the reason Russian President Dmitri Medvedev seems so comfortable doing as he wishes.

I think, given the fact that nearly all of western and eastern Europe is now united in oppostion to Russia's actions, that may prove the decisive factor. This is not the communist Soviet Union. Russia may not need the United States, but it does need the west.

That is why I am hopeful that eventually this conflict will be resolved. Preferably sooner, rather than later.

Comments welcome,

Pat McGovern

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